Comments on: Chip power http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html Sustainable Energy Insight Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:18:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Komrade Kacper http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-80 Komrade Kacper Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:44:08 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-80 I know what you are saying, but actually when you think about it, setting up a blog sitting on a power-hungry server somewhere, requiring bloggers to join in with their power-hungry computing devices in their power-hungry offices or bedrooms also has elements of counter-productivity. Isn't a large part of today's power comsumption problem caused by the ever-increasing demand from consumers who like to chat, blog, email, surf, game, download, upload....? If you were follow this argument to its logical end you would be expressing your opinions standing in your ethically-produced clothes at speakers' corner Hyde Park. But that would not get you anywhere would it?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('80','Komrade Kacper'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('80','Komrade Kacper','I know what you are saying, but actually when you think about it, setting up a blog sitting on a power-hungry server somewhere, requiring bloggers to join in with their power-hungry computing devices in their power-hungry offices or bedrooms also has elements of counter-productivity. Isn\'t a large part of today\'s power comsumption problem caused by the ever-increasing demand from consumers who like to chat, blog, email, surf, game, download, upload....?\nIf you were follow this argument to its logical end you would be expressing your opinions standing in your ethically-produced clothes at speakers\' corner Hyde Park. But that would not get you anywhere would it?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I know what you are saying, but actually when you think about it, setting up a blog sitting on a power-hungry server somewhere, requiring bloggers to join in with their power-hungry computing devices in their power-hungry offices or bedrooms also has elements of counter-productivity. Isn’t a large part of today’s power comsumption problem caused by the ever-increasing demand from consumers who like to chat, blog, email, surf, game, download, upload….?
If you were follow this argument to its logical end you would be expressing your opinions standing in your ethically-produced clothes at speakers’ corner Hyde Park. But that would not get you anywhere would it?
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]]> By: anthony cornish http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-79 anthony cornish Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:02:27 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-79 The irony is indeed beautiful. A good point, well made. I'd still take the holiday though... and you could ask them to Eurostar/TGV you down there instead if you feel this is greener.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('79','anthony cornish'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('79','anthony cornish','The irony is indeed beautiful. A good point, well made.\nI\'d still take the holiday though... and you could ask them to Eurostar\/TGV you down there instead if you feel this is greener.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The irony is indeed beautiful. A good point, well made.
I’d still take the holiday though… and you could ask them to Eurostar/TGV you down there instead if you feel this is greener.
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]]> By: Mark Kobayashi-Hillary http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-78 Mark Kobayashi-Hillary Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:18:36 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-78 Like you say, it's about changing behaviour, walking the walk, not just coughing up for some offsetting... I can't believe that the Live Earth concerts are promoted as adding to the 'debate'... seems like getting some artists to fly around in their private jet raises the debate on climate change? As if I really wanted to hear what Madonna has to say on climate change...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('78','Mark Kobayashi-Hillary'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('78','Mark Kobayashi-Hillary','Like you say, it\'s about changing behaviour, walking the walk, not just coughing up for some offsetting... I can\'t believe that the Live Earth concerts are promoted as adding to the \'debate\'... seems like getting some artists to fly around in their private jet raises the debate on climate change? As if I really wanted to hear what Madonna has to say on climate change...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Like you say, it’s about changing behaviour, walking the walk, not just coughing up for some offsetting… I can’t believe that the Live Earth concerts are promoted as adding to the ‘debate’… seems like getting some artists to fly around in their private jet raises the debate on climate change? As if I really wanted to hear what Madonna has to say on climate change…
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]]> By: David Quainton http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-77 David Quainton Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:55:43 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-77 Now Dan, As you did, I work for Haymarket, earning a paltry sum and living off crusty cut-offs that even the meanest prison warder wouldn't consider handing his most hated lag. Occasionally I save up the money I earn and spend it on the luxury of a Beef & Toyota Pot Noodle. But I'm okay with this, for every penny I don't earn goes to Michael Heseltine, as the sole owner of Haymarket, and is spent expanding his back garden, thus reducing my carbon footprint. It is for this reason I am more than happy to take any gift of a holiday (don't tell me it's anything else) to Sophia Antipolis off your hands. Loving your work on this DI, you old soak you.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('77','David Quainton'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('77','David Quainton','Now Dan,\n\nAs you did, I work for Haymarket, earning a paltry sum and living off crusty cut-offs that even the meanest prison warder wouldn\'t consider handing his most hated lag. Occasionally I save up the money I earn and spend it on the luxury of a Beef & Toyota Pot Noodle.\nBut I\'m okay with this, for every penny I don\'t earn goes to Michael Heseltine, as the sole owner of Haymarket, and is spent expanding his back garden, thus reducing my carbon footprint. It is for this reason I am more than happy to take any gift of a holiday (don\'t tell me it\'s anything else) to Sophia Antipolis off your hands.\nLoving your work on this DI, you old soak you.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Now Dan,

As you did, I work for Haymarket, earning a paltry sum and living off crusty cut-offs that even the meanest prison warder wouldn’t consider handing his most hated lag. Occasionally I save up the money I earn and spend it on the luxury of a Beef & Toyota Pot Noodle.
But I’m okay with this, for every penny I don’t earn goes to Michael Heseltine, as the sole owner of Haymarket, and is spent expanding his back garden, thus reducing my carbon footprint. It is for this reason I am more than happy to take any gift of a holiday (don’t tell me it’s anything else) to Sophia Antipolis off your hands.
Loving your work on this DI, you old soak you.

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]]> By: HelenHopper http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-76 HelenHopper Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:05:24 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-76 offsetting-schmoffsetting... I love www.cheatneutral.com Puts it all in perspective<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('76','HelenHopper'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('76','HelenHopper','offsetting-schmoffsetting...\n\nI love www.cheatneutral.com\n\nPuts it all in perspective'); return false;">Quote</a></div> offsetting-schmoffsetting…

I love http://www.cheatneutral.com

Puts it all in perspective

Reply – http://www.cheatneutral.com\n\nPuts it all in perspective’); return false;”>Quote
]]> By: Adam Liversage http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-75 Adam Liversage Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:50:33 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-75 Controversially, I think you're being a little bit harsh, Dan - if an event is 'pan european', how else would you expect to get there apart from flying? Would you honestly go if they loaned you a Prius and expected you to drive all the way?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('75','Adam Liversage'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('75','Adam Liversage','Controversially, I think you\'re being a little bit harsh, Dan - if an event is \'pan european\', how else would you expect to get there apart from flying? Would you honestly go if they loaned you a Prius and expected you to drive all the way?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Controversially, I think you’re being a little bit harsh, Dan – if an event is ‘pan european’, how else would you expect to get there apart from flying? Would you honestly go if they loaned you a Prius and expected you to drive all the way?
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]]> By: Anthony http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-74 Anthony Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:29:32 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-74 Offsetting my backside - thats like Tony Blair trying to offset the war in Iraq by becoming a PEace Envoy after hundreds of thousands of people have been killed- I regularly try and offset all those pints the morning after by drinking a smoothie but the damage has still been done. You are right to be cynical - i am not a journalist and i think this is a stupid idea - flying all that way just to see someone talking about their shiny new widget. Better idea - get a load of journalists in a room with a sunlamp, a crate of beer and a webcam. Cheaper, environmentally friendly and guaranteed weather.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('74','Anthony'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('74','Anthony','Offsetting my backside - thats like Tony Blair trying to offset the war in Iraq by becoming a PEace Envoy after hundreds of thousands of people have been killed- I regularly try and offset all those pints the morning after by drinking a smoothie but the damage has still been done.\n\nYou are right to be cynical - i am not a journalist and i think this is a stupid idea - flying all that way just to see someone talking about their shiny new widget. Better idea - get a load of journalists in a room with a sunlamp, a crate of beer and a webcam. Cheaper, environmentally friendly and guaranteed weather.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Offsetting my backside – thats like Tony Blair trying to offset the war in Iraq by becoming a PEace Envoy after hundreds of thousands of people have been killed- I regularly try and offset all those pints the morning after by drinking a smoothie but the damage has still been done.

You are right to be cynical – i am not a journalist and i think this is a stupid idea – flying all that way just to see someone talking about their shiny new widget. Better idea – get a load of journalists in a room with a sunlamp, a crate of beer and a webcam. Cheaper, environmentally friendly and guaranteed weather.

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]]> By: Ben Hunt http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-73 Ben Hunt Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:18:07 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-73 It's a bit like Dozy Dave Cameron flying off to the Arctic Circle to cuddle polar bears to demonstrate his green credentials. You can tell where the idea came from, and why at least someone thought it was a good idea. But if you think about it rationally for about four seconds you realise how ridiculous and counter-productive it actually is. You shouldo go, but only if they pick you up from your flat and drive you down there in a Prius.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('73','Ben Hunt'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('73','Ben Hunt','It\'s a bit like Dozy Dave Cameron flying off to the Arctic Circle to cuddle polar bears to demonstrate his green credentials. You can tell where the idea came from, and why at least someone thought it was a good idea. But if you think about it rationally for about four seconds you realise how ridiculous and counter-productive it actually is. You shouldo go, but only if they pick you up from your flat and drive you down there in a Prius.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It’s a bit like Dozy Dave Cameron flying off to the Arctic Circle to cuddle polar bears to demonstrate his green credentials. You can tell where the idea came from, and why at least someone thought it was a good idea. But if you think about it rationally for about four seconds you realise how ridiculous and counter-productive it actually is. You shouldo go, but only if they pick you up from your flat and drive you down there in a Prius.
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]]> By: Daniel Thomas http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-72 Daniel Thomas Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:43:49 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-72 Interesting point Dan. Not that I'm endorsing an end to all press trips ;-) But totally agree firms need to think through their message if they're going to jump on the green bandwagon. Don't think any tech firm can really brag green credentials with impunity.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('72','Daniel Thomas'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('72','Daniel Thomas','Interesting point Dan. Not that I\'m endorsing an end to all press trips ;-) But totally agree firms need to think through their message if they\'re going to jump on the green bandwagon. Don\'t think any tech firm can really brag green credentials with impunity.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Interesting point Dan. Not that I’m endorsing an end to all press trips ;-) But totally agree firms need to think through their message if they’re going to jump on the green bandwagon. Don’t think any tech firm can really brag green credentials with impunity.
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]]> By: Will Sturgeon http://www.greenbang.com/chip-power_135.html/comment-page-1#comment-71 Will Sturgeon Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:24:28 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=135#comment-71 Excellent point, well made - nice one Dan. Don't think HP are alone in these kinds of double standards but hopefully your post may get people talking and some of their competitors thinking 'that could have been us...'<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('71','Will Sturgeon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('71','Will Sturgeon','Excellent point, well made - nice one Dan. Don\'t think HP are alone in these kinds of double standards but hopefully your post may get people talking and some of their competitors thinking \'that could have been us...\''); return false;">Quote</a></div> Excellent point, well made – nice one Dan. Don’t think HP are alone in these kinds of double standards but hopefully your post may get people talking and some of their competitors thinking ‘that could have been us…’
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