Comments on: Has lazy, weak government killed off carbon capture? http://www.greenbang.com/has-lazy-weak-government-killed-off-carbon-capture_2820.html Sustainable Energy Insight Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:18:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carol A Overland http://www.greenbang.com/has-lazy-weak-government-killed-off-carbon-capture_2820.html/comment-page-1#comment-1752 Carol A Overland Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:19:23 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2820/has-lazy-weak-government-killed-off-carbon-capture/#comment-1752 RE: “By May 2007, 10 projects were proposed for the UK –the largest number in the world. These were also the most diverse mix of projects in the world, and included post-combustion capture on retrofitted and re-powered coal plant, post-combustion on new coal plant, pre-combustion capture on coal new IGCC, and pre-combustion on gas.”

Puh-leeze, these are no more than pipedreams, promises or proposals that the developers can’t deliver on because they’re not technically possible and not commercially available. That was the case for Excelsior Energy’s Mesaba Project, which they claimed was “capture ready” which meant only that flange A had bolts to attach high buck equipment that was not contemplated. CO2 capture on IGCC is fairly easy to do on first 30% or so, but it’s high cost, about a billion per Excelsior. The increase to MWhr cost is $50, increasing cost from the proposed PPA cost of $96-104 to $146-154/MWhr. To get to the next level, that’s not even in development. And once you capture it, what do you do with it? In addition to the high capital cost, there’s a HUGE efficiency loss. At the 30% capture rate, industry models default to a trade scheme rather than pay the freight.
Search http://www.legalectric.org and look for IGCC or gasification or Excelsior or Mesaba or carbon capture or …
For some info on chilled ammonia and a link:
http://gasification-igcc.blogspot.com/2007/07/putting-chill-on-chilled-ammonia-for.html

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]]> By: Ed http://www.greenbang.com/has-lazy-weak-government-killed-off-carbon-capture_2820.html/comment-page-1#comment-1746 Ed Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:57:12 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2820/has-lazy-weak-government-killed-off-carbon-capture/#comment-1746 Could this lack of focus on Carbon Capture be because it isn't as "visible" to the voter as other iniatives? Governments do things which will win them votes and / or make them money. Being seen to do something about the threat of Climate Change is all about the word "seen". Wind farms are seen. Headline grabbing taxes on big cars are seen. Widgets fitted to the top of smoke stacks at power stations, which most of the population has never visited, are not "seen". Additionally, it doesn't make any money for the exchequer, unlike new taxes or new industries (like wind farms). Ed.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1746','Ed'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1746','Ed','Could this lack of focus on Carbon Capture be because it isn\'t as \"visible\" to the voter as other iniatives? Governments do things which will win them votes and \/ or make them money. \r\nBeing seen to do something about the threat of Climate Change is all about the word \"seen\". Wind farms are seen. Headline grabbing taxes on big cars are seen. \r\nWidgets fitted to the top of smoke stacks at power stations, which most of the population has never visited, are not \"seen\". \r\nAdditionally, it doesn\'t make any money for the exchequer, unlike new taxes or new industries (like wind farms).\r\n\r\nEd.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Could this lack of focus on Carbon Capture be because it isn’t as “visible” to the voter as other iniatives? Governments do things which will win them votes and / or make them money.
Being seen to do something about the threat of Climate Change is all about the word “seen”. Wind farms are seen. Headline grabbing taxes on big cars are seen.
Widgets fitted to the top of smoke stacks at power stations, which most of the population has never visited, are not “seen”.
Additionally, it doesn’t make any money for the exchequer, unlike new taxes or new industries (like wind farms).

Ed.

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