Comments on: Shai Agassi talks to Greenbang http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html Sustainable Energy Insight Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:18:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-8879 Richard Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:54:43 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-8879 The average mileage driven in the USA is 1000 miles a month. The price of gasoline is around $3.00 per gallon. Average mileage is 25 mpg. Do the math. The average driver pays $120 monthly for fuel here, or $1440 a year. Over 7 years that's $10080, less than the cost of most cars and current battery packs. No way Agassi can pay for electricity, buy batteries, pay for infrastructure, pay swapping station operators, and even think of giving you a free car. I would love to see his business model calculations to support has claims about this project.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8879','Richard'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8879','Richard','The average mileage driven in the USA is 1000 miles a month. The price of gasoline is around $3.00 per gallon. Average mileage is 25 mpg. Do the math. The average driver pays $120 monthly for fuel here, or $1440 a year. Over 7 years that\'s $10080, less than the cost of most cars and current battery packs. No way Agassi can pay for electricity, buy batteries, pay for infrastructure, pay swapping station operators, and even think of giving you a free car. I would love to see his business model calculations to support has claims about this project.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The average mileage driven in the USA is 1000 miles a month. The price of gasoline is around $3.00 per gallon. Average mileage is 25 mpg. Do the math. The average driver pays $120 monthly for fuel here, or $1440 a year. Over 7 years that’s $10080, less than the cost of most cars and current battery packs. No way Agassi can pay for electricity, buy batteries, pay for infrastructure, pay swapping station operators, and even think of giving you a free car. I would love to see his business model calculations to support has claims about this project.
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]]> By: Anton Pribanic http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-2238 Anton Pribanic Wed, 14 May 2008 03:05:46 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-2238 In regard to run an electric car I have better solution and much cheaper so that everyone would be able to afford it. Please let Mr. Agassi contact me as soon as possible.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2238','Anton Pribanic'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2238','Anton Pribanic','In regard to run an electric car I have better solution and much cheaper so that everyone would be able to afford it. Please let Mr. Agassi contact me as soon as possible.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> In regard to run an electric car I have better solution and much cheaper so that everyone would be able to afford it. Please let Mr. Agassi contact me as soon as possible.
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]]> By: VantagePoint's Bill Green: Why cash beats treehugging http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-1652 VantagePoint's Bill Green: Why cash beats treehugging Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:10:04 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-1652 [...] Mr Green heads a team that made its first clean-tech investment way back in 2003. Since then, it has backed some well-know firms in the space including Tesla Motors, BrightSource, Chemrec, solarcentury and Shai Agassi’s Project Better Place . [...]
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]]> By: SAP co-founder gets into green VC game | Greenbang http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-1036 SAP co-founder gets into green VC game | Greenbang Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:31:07 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-1036 [...] green, like the Americans do with their beer on Saint Patrick’s Day? First there was Shai Agassi going into green energy, now co-founder Hasso Plattner has decided to kick off Hasso Plattner Ventures Africa, a tech VC [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1036','SAP co-founder gets into green VC game | Greenbang'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1036','SAP co-founder gets into green VC game | Greenbang','[...] green, like the Americans do with their beer on Saint Patrick’s Day? First there was Shai Agassi going into green energy, now co-founder Hasso Plattner has decided to kick off Hasso Plattner Ventures Africa, a tech VC [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] green, like the Americans do with their beer on Saint Patrick’s Day? First there was Shai Agassi going into green energy, now co-founder Hasso Plattner has decided to kick off Hasso Plattner Ventures Africa, a tech VC [...]
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]]> By: Robert Ingram http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-1001 Robert Ingram Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:31:40 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-1001 Mr Beuchert lacks Mr Agassi's vision. I would respectfully recommend that he read Edwin Black's "Internal Combustion" His 100 year old "batteries won't work argument" ignores the true history of the electric car. I am old enough to remember when computers filled rooms and now I have 4 in my home. I expect the same progress in the world of EV's It is inevitable<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1001','Robert Ingram'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1001','Robert Ingram','Mr Beuchert lacks Mr Agassi\'s vision. I would respectfully recommend that he read Edwin Black\'s \"Internal Combustion\"\r\nHis 100 year old \"batteries won\'t work argument\" ignores the true history of the electric car. I am old enough to remember when computers filled rooms and now I have 4 in my home. I expect the same progress in the world of EV\'s It is inevitable'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mr Beuchert lacks Mr Agassi’s vision. I would respectfully recommend that he read Edwin Black’s “Internal Combustion”
His 100 year old “batteries won’t work argument” ignores the true history of the electric car. I am old enough to remember when computers filled rooms and now I have 4 in my home. I expect the same progress in the world of EV’s It is inevitable
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]]> By: kent beuchert http://www.greenbang.com/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang_2360.html/comment-page-1#comment-969 kent beuchert Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:04:21 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/2360/shai-agassi-talks-to-greenbang/#comment-969 Agassi is resurrecting an old, stupididea that is still really, really dumb. One of the two giant probems with electric cars is the same that it was in 1907 - the batteries cost a lot and the driving range is too short to enable the Ev to be competitive. Fortunately Agassi will be operating in a country the size of a postage stamp, so range issues aren't anywhere near the problem they are in the US. He also is operating wheere the price of gasoline would be considered exorbitant even by the Saudis, so he can sock it to the drivers day be day rather than all at once - this is his "solution" to the high cost of EVs. Notice that stockpiling battery packs in these "swapping stations" means that the system requires 1) a lot of manpower to operate these stations, and 2) there must be far more than 100 battery packs for every 100 drivers, driving up the overal cost of the most expensive component of an EV. It's all a matter of selling the consumer an inflated cost item by taking the money out every day and taking advantage f the already high cost of transportation in Israel. This scheme has zero apllicability to practically every other country. Battery-only electrics make absolutely no sense at this point - plug-ins with a range of 40 miles can eliminate well over 90% of the liquid fuel requirements of the US. Agassi has sold a bill of goods to the desperate politicians of Israel, and his cars won't be functional until after plug-ins become commercialized. And they will be produced by a single company. Talk about a complete monopoly!!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('969','kent beuchert'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('969','kent beuchert','Agassi is resurrecting an old, stupididea that is still really, really dumb. One of the two giant probems with electric cars is the same that it was in 1907 - the batteries cost a lot and the driving range is too short to enable the Ev to be competitive. Fortunately Agassi will be operating in a country the size of a postage stamp, so range issues aren\'t anywhere near the problem they are in the US. \r\nHe also is operating wheere the price of gasoline would be considered exorbitant even by the Saudis, so he can sock it to the drivers day be day rather than all at once - this is his \"solution\" to the high cost of EVs. Notice that stockpiling battery packs in these \"swapping stations\" means that the system requires 1) a lot of manpower to operate these stations, and 2) there must be far more than 100 battery packs for every 100 drivers, driving up the overal cost of the most expensive component of an EV. It\'s all a matter of selling the consumer an inflated cost item by taking the money out every day and taking advantage f the already high cost of transportation in Israel. This scheme has zero apllicability to practically every other country. Battery-only electrics make absolutely no sense at this point - plug-ins with a range of 40 miles can eliminate well over 90% of the liquid fuel requirements of the US. Agassi has sold a bill of goods to the desperate politicians of Israel, and his cars won\'t be functional until after plug-ins become commercialized. And they will be produced by a single company. Talk about a complete monopoly!!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Agassi is resurrecting an old, stupididea that is still really, really dumb. One of the two giant probems with electric cars is the same that it was in 1907 – the batteries cost a lot and the driving range is too short to enable the Ev to be competitive. Fortunately Agassi will be operating in a country the size of a postage stamp, so range issues aren’t anywhere near the problem they are in the US.
He also is operating wheere the price of gasoline would be considered exorbitant even by the Saudis, so he can sock it to the drivers day be day rather than all at once – this is his “solution” to the high cost of EVs. Notice that stockpiling battery packs in these “swapping stations” means that the system requires 1) a lot of manpower to operate these stations, and 2) there must be far more than 100 battery packs for every 100 drivers, driving up the overal cost of the most expensive component of an EV. It’s all a matter of selling the consumer an inflated cost item by taking the money out every day and taking advantage f the already high cost of transportation in Israel. This scheme has zero apllicability to practically every other country. Battery-only electrics make absolutely no sense at this point – plug-ins with a range of 40 miles can eliminate well over 90% of the liquid fuel requirements of the US. Agassi has sold a bill of goods to the desperate politicians of Israel, and his cars won’t be functional until after plug-ins become commercialized. And they will be produced by a single company. Talk about a complete monopoly!!!
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