Comments on: US banks billions on an electric-car future http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html Sustainable Energy Insight Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:18:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: grupa jurgena http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-14669 grupa jurgena Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:24:57 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-14669 DAS FUNKTIONIERT WIRKLICH Sergio Marchionne
Hallo wir möchten Automobilhersteller für unser Projekt mit dem Namen
Leonardo da Vinci begeistern. Die Prozedur ist Baterieunabhaengig und
gibt den Autos eine unbegrenzte Reichweite und ein sorgenfreies Fahren
ohne nachzutanken*. *Bei unserer Arbeit sind wir in eine ganz andere
Richtung als der weltliche Automobilmarkt gegangen. Leonardo ist ein
Geraet welches selbst Energie erzeugt und erlaubt dem Automobil ein
unabhaengiges fahren ohne Zeit und Kilometerlimit. Das Geraet konkuriert
preislich mit Energietraegern wie Benzin oder Diesel. Leonardo nutzt
diese Energiequellen nicht. Das Projekt ist leicht verschtändlich in
Beschreibung und Konstruktion. Es ist einfach zu produzieren,
kostenguenstig und konkuriert sehr mit Benzinmotoren. Bei der
Konstruktion erschienen wissenswerte Erscheinungen, welche uns
überraschten. Die Anlage funktioniert nicht nur mit Automobilen welche
mit Energie versorgt werden, sondern es kann auch die Stromtechnik mit
Energie versorgen, wie Legobausteine welche in Städten angebracht werden
und es kann auch Elektrizaetswerke mit Strom versorgen ohne mit der
Ökologie in Konflikt zu geraten.

Wir möchten in der weltlichen Automobilindustrie ein Interesse wecken,
sowie Gespräche um die Zukunft und das gemeinsame Projekt für die
Automobilindustrie führen.

Wir glauben, dass man 2012 mit der Herstellung der elektrischen Autos
mit der Anlage beginnen kann, ohne staatliche Zuschüsse.

Wir bitten bei Interesse um Kontaktaufnahme. Grupa Jurgena bjpost@web.de

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-14649 Anonymous Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:47:17 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-14649 I saw a different blog mentioning Orlando FL considering parking lots with plugs. That begs a question. If an electric car gets 40 miles of range in a Florida WINTER (where it's like a Chicago Late Spring), how much shorter will the range be in a Florida SUMMER? Ever been to Orlando in July? I can only say you don't want to be Finnish, Russian, Inuit, etc.! Given the sprawl, a 30 mile drive to the charging parking lot will work in January, but cut on the A/C, and you'll have some explaining to do for your boss. Or, leave it off and piss off coworkers with your B.O. (and explain why you "don't shower" to your boss)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14649','Anonymous'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14649','Anonymous','I saw a different blog mentioning Orlando FL considering parking lots with plugs. That begs a question. If an electric car gets 40 miles of range in a Florida WINTER (where it\'s like a Chicago Late Spring), how much shorter will the range be in a Florida SUMMER? Ever been to Orlando in July? I can only say you don\'t want to be Finnish, Russian, Inuit, etc.! Given the sprawl, a 30 mile drive to the charging parking lot will work in January, but cut on the A\/C, and you\'ll have some explaining to do for your boss. Or, leave it off and piss off coworkers with your B.O. (and explain why you \"don\'t shower\" to your boss)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I saw a different blog mentioning Orlando FL considering parking lots with plugs. That begs a question. If an electric car gets 40 miles of range in a Florida WINTER (where it’s like a Chicago Late Spring), how much shorter will the range be in a Florida SUMMER? Ever been to Orlando in July? I can only say you don’t want to be Finnish, Russian, Inuit, etc.! Given the sprawl, a 30 mile drive to the charging parking lot will work in January, but cut on the A/C, and you’ll have some explaining to do for your boss. Or, leave it off and piss off coworkers with your B.O. (and explain why you “don’t shower” to your boss)
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]]> By: Randy Dutton http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-12023 Randy Dutton Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:43:57 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-12023 Don't base your arguments on an assumption of an oil shortage. The global reserves are even higher now than 30 years ago. That is because new technology has found much more, and a much higher percentage now can be recovered. Even Brasil now has 80 billion barrels of recoverable oil now. USGS revised it's US shale oil reserves to 5 trillion barrels, up from 2.1 Trillion. Estimates of recovery of the Bakken oil is up over 10X because of new technology. And new technology can recover much more from old oil fields. Whether you love or hate oil, America has over $40 TRILLION in recoverable oil. To make electric cars means transfering thousands of dollars per car to China. Only consider the economics of fuel use(not the carbon issue). Which saves more $ for the US - oil or electric cars?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12023','Randy Dutton'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12023','Randy Dutton','Don\'t base your arguments on an assumption of an oil shortage. The global reserves are even higher now than 30 years ago. That is because new technology has found much more, and a much higher percentage now can be recovered. Even Brasil now has 80 billion barrels of recoverable oil now. USGS revised it\'s US shale oil reserves to 5 trillion barrels, up from 2.1 Trillion. Estimates of recovery of the Bakken oil is up over 10X because of new technology. And new technology can recover much more from old oil fields. Whether you love or hate oil, America has over $40 TRILLION in recoverable oil. To make electric cars means transfering thousands of dollars per car to China.\r\n\r\nOnly consider the economics of fuel use(not the carbon issue). Which saves more $ for the US - oil or electric cars?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Don’t base your arguments on an assumption of an oil shortage. The global reserves are even higher now than 30 years ago. That is because new technology has found much more, and a much higher percentage now can be recovered. Even Brasil now has 80 billion barrels of recoverable oil now. USGS revised it’s US shale oil reserves to 5 trillion barrels, up from 2.1 Trillion. Estimates of recovery of the Bakken oil is up over 10X because of new technology. And new technology can recover much more from old oil fields. Whether you love or hate oil, America has over $40 TRILLION in recoverable oil. To make electric cars means transfering thousands of dollars per car to China.

Only consider the economics of fuel use(not the carbon issue). Which saves more $ for the US – oil or electric cars?

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]]> By: Randy Dutton http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-12022 Randy Dutton Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:34:59 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-12022 China has a monopoly on the rare earth elements (REE) critical to making electric cars. They announced that starting 2012, China will no longer export many of the 17 REEs, but rather will sell the finished components. Japan has had to buy much of its REEs from the Chinese black market. A Prius takes 2-4 pounds of neodynium. Since ecopoliticians forced the closure of US REE mines, where are you going to get the materials to make electric cars in the US? Read NYT article www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/global/01minerals.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1 Further, electric car manufacturers admit, most production really only is to placate environmentalists, that their cars aren't really ready for prime time. Read the Top 20 Quotes from Toyota and Honda about electric cars www.h2carblog.com/?p=577.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12022','Randy Dutton'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12022','Randy Dutton','China has a monopoly on the rare earth elements (REE) critical to making electric cars. They announced that starting 2012, China will no longer export many of the 17 REEs, but rather will sell the finished components. Japan has had to buy much of its REEs from the Chinese black market.\r\n\r\nA Prius takes 2-4 pounds of neodynium. Since ecopoliticians forced the closure of US REE mines, where are you going to get the materials to make electric cars in the US?\r\n\r\nRead NYT article www.nytimes.com\/2009\/09\/01\/business\/global\/01minerals.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1\r\n\r\nFurther, electric car manufacturers admit, most production really only is to placate environmentalists, that their cars aren\'t really ready for prime time. Read the Top 20 Quotes from Toyota and Honda about electric cars www.h2carblog.com\/?p=577.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> China has a monopoly on the rare earth elements (REE) critical to making electric cars. They announced that starting 2012, China will no longer export many of the 17 REEs, but rather will sell the finished components. Japan has had to buy much of its REEs from the Chinese black market.

A Prius takes 2-4 pounds of neodynium. Since ecopoliticians forced the closure of US REE mines, where are you going to get the materials to make electric cars in the US?

Read NYT article http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/global/01minerals.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1

Further, electric car manufacturers admit, most production really only is to placate environmentalists, that their cars aren’t really ready for prime time. Read the Top 20 Quotes from Toyota and Honda about electric cars http://www.h2carblog.com/?p=577.

Reply – http://www.nytimes.com\/2009\/09\/01\/business\/global\/01minerals.html?pagewanted=2&amp;_r=1\r\n\r\nFurther, electric car manufacturers admit, most production really only is to placate environmentalists, that their cars aren\’t really ready for prime time. Read the Top 20 Quotes from Toyota and Honda about electric cars http://www.h2carblog.com\/?p=577.’); return false;”>Quote
]]> By: grupa jurgena http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-12018 grupa jurgena Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:45:35 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-12018 Welcome to the world has put on yet unknown to anyone working on a program called the Leonardo da Vinci, which gives them an amazing range of cars abandoned with the battery plug the flash is stronger than the sun, which the group says Jurgen, who is waiting on the world, which helps reduce emissions, CO2, 50% if we are to begin production of electric cars we all have to start talking about the future of the project Leonardo project is ready to implement immediately! TO global investors invest in the project Leonardo da Vinci, your act will come to a zenith of profitability is the flash which brightens EU-US Leonardo is the driving force, which the levers of the global economy knees Kassel Germany Jurgen<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12018','grupa jurgena'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12018','grupa jurgena','Welcome to the world has put on yet unknown to anyone working on a program called the Leonardo da Vinci, which gives them an amazing range of cars abandoned with the battery plug the flash is stronger than the sun, which the group says Jurgen, who is waiting on the world, which helps reduce emissions, CO2, 50% if we are to begin production of electric cars we all have to start talking about the future of the project Leonardo project is ready to implement immediately! TO global investors invest in the project Leonardo da Vinci, your act will come to a zenith of profitability is the flash which brightens EU-US Leonardo is the driving force, which the levers of the global economy knees Kassel Germany Jurgen'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Welcome to the world has put on yet unknown to anyone working on a program called the Leonardo da Vinci, which gives them an amazing range of cars abandoned with the battery plug the flash is stronger than the sun, which the group says Jurgen, who is waiting on the world, which helps reduce emissions, CO2, 50% if we are to begin production of electric cars we all have to start talking about the future of the project Leonardo project is ready to implement immediately! TO global investors invest in the project Leonardo da Vinci, your act will come to a zenith of profitability is the flash which brightens EU-US Leonardo is the driving force, which the levers of the global economy knees Kassel Germany Jurgen
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]]> By: Ron Wagner http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-11990 Ron Wagner Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:31:18 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-11990 Many electrical vehicles will also have on board generators to charge them when needed, including while parked. The generator could be swapped as needed to run on many types of fuel: gasoline, diesel, ethanol, natural gas, methane, hydrogen etc. Service stations will offer many types of fuel including electricity.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11990','Ron Wagner'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11990','Ron Wagner','Many electrical vehicles will also have on board generators to charge them when needed, including while parked. The generator could be swapped as needed to run on many types of fuel: gasoline, diesel, ethanol, natural gas, methane, hydrogen etc. Service stations will offer many types of fuel including electricity.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Many electrical vehicles will also have on board generators to charge them when needed, including while parked. The generator could be swapped as needed to run on many types of fuel: gasoline, diesel, ethanol, natural gas, methane, hydrogen etc. Service stations will offer many types of fuel including electricity.
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]]> By: Chris Lawrence http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-11975 Chris Lawrence Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:39:12 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-11975 We simply don't have the resources to replace 250 million gasoline-powered cars with electric cars. Why not instead use electric cars and trucks at the local level, and expand rail for long distance travel and cargo transport? That's the real way to reduce emissions and oil imports. http://www.selfdestructivebastards.com/2009/10/electric-cars-in-small-doses.html<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11975','Chris Lawrence'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11975','Chris Lawrence','We simply don\'t have the resources to replace 250 million gasoline-powered cars with electric cars. Why not instead use electric cars and trucks at the local level, and expand rail for long distance travel and cargo transport? That\'s the real way to reduce emissions and oil imports.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.selfdestructivebastards.com\/2009\/10\/electric-cars-in-small-doses.html'); return false;">Quote</a></div> We simply don’t have the resources to replace 250 million gasoline-powered cars with electric cars. Why not instead use electric cars and trucks at the local level, and expand rail for long distance travel and cargo transport? That’s the real way to reduce emissions and oil imports.

http://www.selfdestructivebastards.com/2009/10/electric-cars-in-small-doses.html

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]]> By: Benjamin http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-11961 Benjamin Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:08:43 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-11961 I'd like to know how much money if any that the oil companies are investing in the battery/electric vehicle technology space. We're going to run out of oil sooner rather than later!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11961','Benjamin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11961','Benjamin','I\'d like to know how much money if any that the oil companies are investing in the battery\/electric vehicle technology space. We\'re going to run out of oil sooner rather than later!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’d like to know how much money if any that the oil companies are investing in the battery/electric vehicle technology space. We’re going to run out of oil sooner rather than later!
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]]> By: HostMDS http://www.greenbang.com/us-banks-billions-on-an-electric-car-future_13462.html/comment-page-1#comment-11955 HostMDS Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:58:25 +0000 http://www.greenbang.com/?p=13462#comment-11955 Interesting that you mention the Tesla. That's a little bit of a different beast than your average vechile. The Tesla is a supercar - the 0-60 rating is unbelievable.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11955','HostMDS'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11955','HostMDS','Interesting that you mention the Tesla. That\'s a little bit of a different beast than your average vechile. The Tesla is a supercar - the 0-60 rating is unbelievable.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Interesting that you mention the Tesla. That’s a little bit of a different beast than your average vechile. The Tesla is a supercar – the 0-60 rating is unbelievable.
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